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a comment turned post. August 12, 2009

So I’ve just received some feedback on yesterday’s post that I began to respond to, but I quickly realized it would be the world’s longest comment. This post is not meant to be about any one person or any particular feedback…it’s just my feelings about how people write today and how people take feedback to an extreme. I’ll try to keep it as clear as possible for you, which means quoting a comment. But, I’m going to unapprove the comment so that this person can remain anonymous if s/he should so choose.
Again, this isn’t about anyone one person—it’s about my feelings on feedback and people not staying true to themselves. To quote a friend, “If I please everyone, then I have no book!”


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This is how my response/comment started::

Thank you so much for your feedback! It’s greatly appreciated—truly.
As far as the rest of the prologue, it’s changed as well. The one you read previously is an old, old version, and not really relevant anymore. It’s changed immensely!! My Authonomy page has the most recent version pretty much at any given time :D

I adore the word lovely and anyone who is picking up a faery book is going to know what it means. Faery is simple, so I try to use other words throughout this scene. =)
As it’s sort-of dreamlike, it’s not supposed to be concrete… The reader is supposed to feel detached and wonder “wtf?”
When it goes to the part where you’d stop reading (as soon as it switches from Ankou’s release to the faery mother and her child — this is what s/he told me), it’s in his memory so it can’t be physical as it’s not part of the scene.

I absolutely appreciate your feedback more than you know, but the important (and awesome) thing that I have learned is to take only what makes sense to you or me, as a writer, out of feedback..
For example, the sentence you restructured by deleting the comma and adding a ‘just’ (which I avoid if I can), well I don’t see it as strengthening the sentence in any way. In fact, it adds meaning that isn’t needed because the fact that it happens once a generation has already been stated…
{[Here is part of the original comment::
--This sentence lacks force because the grammar is shaky.

"Each generation Ankou was granted such an opportunity, he made damned sure to savor every moment."

Better is:

"Each generation Ankou was granted such an opportunity just once and he made damned sure to savor every moment."]}

As I just said, this second option changes the meaning. The grammar is not incorrect in my version. ‘Each’ is just another word for ‘every.’ The reader read it wrong, thinking I was saying something different than I was…
Substitute ‘each generation’ for even just ‘each time.’ They mean the same thing, but the first option is more specific to what is in my story.
Here’s that change::
“Each time Ankou was granted such an opportunity, he made damned sure to savor every moment.”
A completely sound sentence, grammatically. =)

See, this is what I love about having a blog and reading blogs.
Everyone has differing opinions and different tastes and that’s so awesome!!!

As far as approaching a book as a movie, well that’s the easy way out. That’s writing down to your readers, and (I think I blogged about this somewhere before—on one of my sites) if we write books as movies, then we are just catering to thes f*d up generations that are in our society today…. (Sorry, but it’s true. I read as a child and played outside and used my imagination. Nintendo didn’t even show up ’til almost middle school…)
One author I read a while back said something along the lines that it’s a sad state of affairs if we are writing books for people who aren’t apt to pick up a book in the first place. Write for yourself and for your readers. Not for movie-goers who don’t read books…

You mentioned that a director would have a lot of work to do to in order to provide a storyboard for my scene. Well, that would be the screenwriter’s job—not mine, as a novel writer…
This scene sets the tone for a lot that is to occur later on and it’s just a taste of different things that are to come. Now, I’m not saying it’s perfect, but I certainly will not write it out as a screenplay. I don’t want this scene to be too concrete in the reader’s mind because it’s just a prologue. It’s not the ‘true’ beginning of the story, and when I revisit the prologue later, in chapter seven or eight or whenever, it flows better to have it just have been an idea that Alexis is learning about. If Alexis can’t have been there, then I don’t want to reader to truly be there. Does that make sense??

I know I’m defending myself a lot here, and that may seem bad, but I feel that (at least for this part of the story which I’ve revised 30-40 times) I’m confident enough in my work and I should defend myself. Not cater to what other people are telling me to do. If I do that, then why am I even writing? I might as well let others write and just spend my time reading, right?! lol
Not really—feedback is crucial and so wonderful to me! I love that someone will take the time to read my work, first of all, and then to spend even more time commenting. Wow! That’s absolutely amazing. So I don’t mean to come across as ungrateful. I’ve just experienced myself, and have seen with others, that if one changes their work to suit what others say it *should* be, then it becomes a twisted, sub-par version of the original work and usually ends up lacking.
I have actually witnessed one person miss out on a possible contract because s/he changed his/her story to please others and the agent and publisher said that what had been changed needed to be there. This agent/publisher didn’t know the story originally had what it seemed to be lacking. If the author had stuck with his/her gut instinct and kept the story how it was in his/her head and not listened to others, s/he might be on the road to publication right now instead of rewriting said novel…

OK, looking down, I see this has hit over 1k and I like to keep blog posts shorter than that if I can, so I’ll end this here. There’s still a lot more I’d like to touch on, but that will have to wait….
For now, thanks for listening, and please do not take this as me not wanting feedback. The exact opposite is true!! Many of the things I have done to my story to make it what it is now have been because others pointed out holes or other such problems to me. I’m a good editor, but it’s hard to be objective with your own work.

For what it’s worth, and to solidify what I’m saying, the person who made the comment that led to this post thought nothing was wrong with the first part of chapter one. Interestingly, I just typed that out and changed a few things with one brief edit. It’s truly a first draft…

So, maybe, just maybe, we *should* write with the door closed, as Stephen King says (and does)…
But here I am throwing my work out for all the world to see, so who knows what I truly feel. :P
I guess the point is that I’ve discovered that feedback is needed, but I’m confident enough in my writing to take only the feedback I agree with. If it doesn’t feel right for my story, I don’t do it. And I suggest you do the same with your work.

Thanks!!
xx

 

do your characters surprise you? July 31, 2009

well, they do me!

read about it and leave comments—if you’re so inclined…

I love seeing if what happens to me during the writing process happens to other writers, as well

xx

(again, sorry for my absence. i think i’m good now as far as getting settled and i’m back to writing, so i should be back to posting at least once a day—sometimes more! i’ve missed y’all!!)

 

alexis hodge July 16, 2009

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here she is. if you want to read about how i found her and how i generally feel about what characters in my books/stories look like, click right here. (but not til friday *7.17* after midnight as that’s when the other post is scheduled to publish.)

the reason this girl stood out to me is because..well, there are just so many reasons::
*her hair. perfect length and it’s straightened, as alexis likes it. her hair’s curly, but she rarely wears it as such. also, her hair isn’t pulled back. alexis always makes sure her ears are covered, even if some of her hair is pulled back..
*skin tone. she’s dark, but not ‘tanning bed’ dark. it looks like she could be half-italian/half-spanish.
*her eyes. not too much makeup, but enough to bring them out. it’s pretty much the only makeup alexis wears. can’t see this girl’s eyes, but alexis’ are green.
*eyebrows. well-groomed. in keeping with bringing out her eyes.
*her tattoo. she has one that the reader knows of on her foot. one single star. but she’s the type to have something like this and hide it. maybe the top would peek out of a tank on a warm day, but most people would have no clue it exists.
*the belt. just her style.
*age. at least the age this girl looks to be… alexis is twenty, and this girlie seems to be around the same age, give or take (or give) a few years.
*the pose. alexis is uncomfortable in her skin and with her peers, but she would so take a picture like this just to keep for herself. i could see her taking myspace pictures (although i don’t think she’s the type to have a page) and throwing some random poses like this in there that she would never have any intention of posting, let alone seeing the light of day. they’d be locked away – password protected – on her laptop somewhere. even better, on a memory stick that requires a password and encrypts all files. i could so see her with her lips to the camera—trying to portray her inner minx lol
*final note: this just is a perfect example of who alexis thinks she is (and actually really is—well, other than the faery part ;) ) but is too afraid to show her true self to others. for many reasons, mostly fear of rejection or being shunned for being a freak.

this is alexis hodge. period. and i love everything about her!

 

obvious solution! July 11, 2009

Ever since I changed my book to what I was told it should be like, I’ve been having problems. I chunked five chapters and totally redid the beginning only to realize that having so much action only led to less tension. Everything happened and was answered right away. Well, not everything—of course there’s more to the book, but…

Anyway, I put four of the five chapters back in and rewrote the beginning. I wrote it how it was originally. It’s better now because I’ve had ridiculous amounts of revising practice, but it took a few months to get it back to where I feel the story is how it should be.

The problem is that I was thrown off track. Big time. And I’m pretty much back, but the wheels aren’t sliding into the rails exactly right. (or however trains work…idk)
I have had to leave where I’d stopped writing before the crazy revision—about chapter 14 or so—and jump ahead to write later chapters. Those were the only ones that were working themselves out in my head. I was struggling with ch14…it’s still only half done. But I have 4 or 5 later chapters completely finished. One towards the middle, and the rest fit in between the middle and the end somewhere.

I guess it’s perfectly fine to write this way, but I was doing so well writing sequentially and then…Nothing. Nada. No words came out. And if they did, they were all wrong.

Of course I have an idea of what I want to do with the chapter. I know what needs to happen, I just don’t know how to do it.

Then here comes Ray Rhamey, giving me the answer that’s been right in front of my face. Duh, Eden!

Comments. Yes, Word Comments. All I have to do is highlight the last bit of text and add some notes to the side to briefly outline what will happen in that chapter and subsequent ones.
Now, I’m not an outline type of gal, so the really obvious answer won’t work for me. Not at all.
But comments… These will work.

See, if I write down something, then it’s out of my head and I can move on. I’m that way with anything. I’m actually that way with speaking, as well. If something’s on my mind, I just have to get it out and then it’s done and over with. Resolved.
So, if I write down the bones of the chapters that have been in my head for months, it will trick my mind into thinking I’ve written the chapters. Part of the trick is that these ideas and such need to be in the document. Which is why outlines don’t work for me.
Once I’ve made notes in a few comments, I can move on. I know I’m capable of writing later chapters, as I’ve already done so.
Once I’m back in my rhythm, I can go back and fill in the details and really write the action, dialogue, and such.

Yay for MS Word and Ray Rhamey.
Read what gave me hope!
And read other articles of his, as he has great insights into the editing/revising process. Heck, even the basic, beginning writing process. I’ve bookmarked many of his individual pages, on top of bookmarking the main page for daily updates.
This will be the third time I’ve linked to his article in this one of mine, so go check it out!

 

i’ll shut up soon enough. July 7, 2009

Filed under: lesson learned. — Eden Tyler @ 10:42 am
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more platform info.
i know, i know.
this one’s not bad. just more of a reiteration that it is important. i, of course, was reading nathan bransford’s blog (link is on the sidebar), and the guest blogger yesterday, eric (no last name–he has no blog he’d like to make public), said this::
(i added the bold & brackets…)

—”In summary: sales of your previous books, sales of “comp” titles, your platform as an author (as described on the fact sheets), the book’s cover, the current economic climate, events in the news, &c all contribute to how many copies of your book a given account [bookstore] will buy.”

so there you have it. i haven’t been babbling away about nothing, as i thought i might be…
the article was informative, if a bit disheartening. but hey, that’s how it is. and the more we know, the further ahead we can get!!!

now, i just need to figure out how to become wonderful friends with an agent, a publisher, and a buyer. i’ll let you know how that’s going ;)

 

more platform info! July 3, 2009

My serial blog on building and maintaining your personal platform or brand has been updated!

I have a new post up this morning at giveagirlapen.com.

Check it out and learn something about this crazy business we’re attempting to enter.

=)

 

how about a free critique?? June 21, 2009

After my ‘first five pages/sentences’ post on giveagirlapen.com, Liz has decided to offer the chance for writers to send us girls your own first five sentences.
She will post them, with her critiques, on the site on June 28th.
This will give all writers the chance to receive help—to start with the best hook possible. We’re all here to network and root each other on && this is a great way to take advantage of that!!
Check out Liz’s post, which states the exact rules, and send in your work to ifyougiveagirl@gmail.com by June 27th.

I look forward to seeing what everyone has written. I love critiques—so much fun =)
I’ll be posting my first five sentences, as well, and hope that ya’ll will help me out, along with Liz! I welcome all advice—it’s always nice to see all views and take what makes sense to me and use the info for necessary changes…

Have a great Sunday, and Happy Father’s Day to those celebrating today.
Remember, if you give a girl… isn’t just for girls. We’re looking for any and all writers. So send your stuff in!!
I’ll talk to you all tomorrow!!

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*p.s. — is it just me, or is this really weird that the one post that i was sooo ridiculously insecure about is the one that’s garnered the most attention, turning into not one, but four posts!?!?!! Craziness!!!
just goes to show that we all need to have confidence in ourselves!!!

 

blogging, part II. June 19, 2009

so, i was feeling rather crappy about the fact that i’ve done nothing but blog. and to top that off, i was so unsure about the dang blog i wrote on giveagirl that i posted the first comment on it to explain what i was really trying to say…

anyway, i was starting to think that blogging was futile, until i came across this!

now, (on top of my daily word goal i just commented about on my ‘it’s 1 pm…’ post), i have two new goals.
plus, a brand-new sense of confidence. YAY for me, right?!?!??
goal #1:: blog, blog, blog. possibly blog my work. maybe i’ll do a serial blog of my first book. we’ll see…
goal #2:: (and this is the cool one!) start a twitter for my MC. i had promised myself that i would stay away from twitter at all costs. but, after a blog that led me to a blog that led me to the one i linked ya’ll to, i’ve changed my mind.
thing is, i’ve no clue how to go about it. but, if people can get interested in my girl, and i can learn more about her by getting into her head every day, that would certainly help my writing, right?!?!?? it’d have to!!!
i’m a bit OCD, and i have a strong feeling that if i get so completely involved in alexis’ life, that i’ll have no choice but to sit down and write her story. i’ll want anything and everything to be about her. then, voila, my book will be done. (hey, i can hope, right? ;) )

so, i guess the point of all of this rambling is
A) to send ya’ll to the link, &
B) to ask for advice on twitter. because i’ve never gone near the site before and don’t have a clue as to what it’s all about.
any help would be sublime =)

xx
-e*

 

blogging. June 19, 2009

Filed under: if you give a girl a pen...,lesson learned. — Eden Tyler @ 12:21 pm
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i had a post all ready and saved as a draft for giveagirlapen.com, but late last night, i decided i didn’t want to use that one. not a clue why, but i’m a girl and we’re allowed those whims….

well, this whim led to way more time and research than i’d anticipated.
at 1 am, i had about 1200 words, which is wayyy too long for a blog, so i cut it down to around 700, i think. i was writing and editing at like 2 am and it got to the point where i couldn’t even read my words anymore.
so, at 2:30, i just published it and went to bed.
i’m afraid to check it out, as it might be horrific.
i’ve really no clue what i even wrote about.
but, if ya’ll wanna check it out, feel free.
here it is.

i’ll post something more interesting on here later.
once i am fully awake and aware of what it is i’m doing….

late night writing is great for me, as it usually turns out fine, but i should stick to only doing that for my personal writing. stuff i can edit later….
hey, yet another lesson learned, right?!??

talk to ya’ll later!
xx

 

so, it’s 1 pm, and… June 18, 2009

Filed under: lesson learned. — Eden Tyler @ 1:12 pm
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i’ve accomplished absolutely nothing!
seriously, nothing.
it’s ridiculous!!!

i’m still in my pajamas and the only reason i’m about to get ready is because my kid and i are going to my mom’s to visit.
yeah, i’ve taken care of my child and the dogs and did a blog for tomorrow and researched some stuff i needed to, but i’ve only left the house for a minute. my dog ran over to the neighbors, so i had to go get her and chat.
i’ve watched some tv, did the dishes and made the bed.
what the frack happened to writing?!?!???

tricia wrote about this problem a few days ago, and today, more than ever, i realize i need to focus and make a schedule for myself.
her post is fabulous and mirrors my days perfectly!!
so please read it. i’ll be your best friend if you do ;)

http://dfmil09.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/focus/

have a great day and get some work done!!
xx  -e*